[T]here are things beyond our control that dictate whether you are poor or not. So, that's--that's just the why I, I view the difference between White people and Brown or Black people, or People-of-Color is a better way to put it.
I mean, it's our-If you look at how we look at things in the world situation, it's-it's amazing to me. But if you have the power, mostly money, anything is-you can buy anything. [chuckle] You can buy people's loyalty. You can buy their death. You can buy anything. . .
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